1. If you have the same number of elements, then 64T64R is more capable of changing the beamforming. Hence, it can be steered towards more locations on the cell edge. But I believe practitioners will claim that the difference is rather small.

2. It depends on what you mean with an antenna. Let’s assume that you consider an antenna port, which is an RF chain connected to multiple elements. The gain of this antenna port is equal to the gain of each element multiplied with the number of elements. (In dB scale you add the 10*log10 of the number of elements).

]]>1. For coverage point of view which is good, to go with 32T32R to 64T64R or if we have 32T32R we should increase the antenna elements?

2. How the antenna gain is impacted by the elements?

Please explain.

]]>No, I mean 94 mW of radiated power per element. If you have one TRX chain connected to four elements, then you need it to provide 4*94 = 376 mW which is then divided between the elements.

The EIRP is determined by the number of elements and their individual gains and transmit power, not the number of TRX. You will achieve the strongest beam by feeding all the elements with the same signal. That can be done with one TRX connected to all elements, 16 TRX (each connected to 4 elements), or 64 TRX (each connected to one element).

It is the flexibility in what kind of signals that you transmit (e.g., number of beams and how well they can be steered) that is determined by the number of TRX. If you want to support MU-MIMO or SU-MIMO with many layers, you would like to have as many TRX as possible so you can design the signals to fit the channel as well as possible.

]]>Thanks Emil.

So, the Tx output from 1 TRX chain has to be 94mW (19.7dBm), right? This 94 mW goes to all the 4 elements/port and becomes 19.7+10log10(4)? Is this correct?

I have 16 TRX chains and based on the current understanding, I need to have 94 mW from each TRX chain.

And is there is a dependency on the MU MIMO/ SU MIMO on the physical structure/ no. of elements of the antenna?

Also, this calculation is based on transmitting a single data stream from all 16TRX chains?

]]>Hi Ramarao,

It seems that you are calculating the same thing twice when you write 10log(64)(Ant.gain)+10log(64)(BF gain). Each antenna element has a gain of 5 dBi. With beamforming from 64 such elements, you will then have a joint antenna gain + beamforming gain of

5 + 10log10(64) = 23 dBi.

To reach all the way up to an EIRP of 61 dBm, you then need a total transmit power of 61-23 = 38 dBm = 6 W.

If you divided this power equally over the 64 elements, then each antenna element will radiate 6000/64 = 94 mW.

]]>I am little confused on the antenna elements and its gain calculations to find out the Transmit power from each RF chain.

For eg:

Requirement is below: 16T16R, 8×4 MU MIMO or 4×2 SU MIMO with an EIRP target of 61dBm

Analysis:

Assumed 8 column antenna with 2 elements cross polarized and 4 rows. So, antenna config is 8 rows x 4 colums x 2 Pol

So the total no. of elements is 64. Ind. element gain is 5dBi. As per the theoretical calculations, the required transmit power from RF chain becomes 61-5- 10log(64)(Ant.gain)-10log(64)(BF gain) = 20dBm. Is this correct?

However, in practical, how this much gain is achieved is something i could not visualize. Because, each column has 4 radiating elements thats connected to 1 RF chain, meaning 5dBi+ 10log 4 = 11dBi is the total antenna gain. When all these 16 Tx chains are combined using beam forming, we get 10log(16)= 12dB. How we can achieve so much of gain as per the theoretical calculations?

The whole thing is required for me to design the RF FE based on the Tx power requirement and so the overall system DC consumption.

Am i missing something here?

Thanks in advance!! ]]>

1) Each antenna element has a fixed radiation pattern, which you might view as a single beam. However, as soon as you have two antenna elements that you can feed with different input signals, you can create an arbitrary number of different beams. So the answer is infinitely many.

2) If you are considering the number of _orthogonal_ beams that can be create simultaneously, then it is equal to the number of input signal (number of logical antennas).

3) I don’t understand where the number 21 comes from. I would say that you can simultaneously create 8 orthogonal horizontal beams and 8 orthogonal vertical beams, which then can be combined into 64 different orthogonal 3D beams.

]]>While working on the project I have some queries related to the design criteria. Could you please help me with those topic.

1) How we can determine the number of beams can be generated for particular antenna.

E.g.:- Row=8, Column=8 and cross polar with antenna element separation =0.5λ.

2) Number of beams generation depends upon physical antenna setup or logical antenna?

3) While generating beams for 8*8 MIMO—only 21 beams generated. Is it correct? ]]>

With 64 TRXs, one can create anything from one to 64 beams. One of the key features of Massive MIMO is to have many more TRXs than the number of beams that you want to form, which gives a good ability to control the directions of the beams, make the beams narrow, and suppress interference. All TRX are used at the same time. I try to explain this here: https://youtu.be/xGkyZw98Tug

Regarding “it is communicated from a vendor…. Can this arrangement be called MM in its true spirit?”: No, I wouldn’t call it Massive MIMO, but the industry has taken over the terminology and is using it for every product with at least 32 TRX.

Broadcasting from arrays can be achieved using space-time coding. Here is one algorithm for that: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1901.09554.pdf

]]>I want to understand if there are 64 TRXs, there will be 64 beams. However, typically only 8 to 16 layer MU-BF is supported in LTE Massive MIMO (MM) products. Is it that only a subset of 64 TRXs are used at any given instant to form beams needed for the number of paired layers/users? Or all the 64 TRXs are used dynamically all the time making narrow to wide beams as per the situation? Also, it is communicated from a vendor that currently only static beams are used by its MM products (i.e. 8 horizontal and 4 vertical beams), and each UE is assigned one of this static beam based on its location. Can this arrangement be called MM in its true spirit?

Moreover, broadcast and common control channels are not suitable for narrow beams in LTE and require one wider beam across the entire cell coverage area (65 degree to 90 degree BW), so how this broadcast beam is managed from the same MM product?

]]>1) I don’t know the detailed of the NR standard. In theory, you can superimpose as many beams as you like. But in practice, you don’t want more than 64 beams. 2) Yes, and you can also assign the same PRB to multiple users, if each user is using a different well-separated beam. 3) Yes.

]]>You can read about channel modeling for uniform planar arrays in Section 7.3 of my book Massive MIMO networks (https://massivemimobook.com).

As long as you use a set of orthogonal pilot sequences, it doesn’t matter what the sequences are. But you can find some examples in Section 3.1 of the book.

]]>Thanks Prof. Emil Björnson for your message and link. It definitely helps in understanding.

]]>I haven’t worked with cross-layer optimization with fuzzy logic myself, but I suppose it can be applied along with many different physical-layer techniques. The rate formulas for massive MIMO that you find in the book Fundamentals of Massive MIMO can be utilized for cross-layer optimization. But if you are going to work on a PhD thesis, the main question you should ask is: What are the open questions that you want to answer? It is better to start from that perspective than to start with selecting the tools that you want to use.

]]>Yes, it will reduce the performance, but if the MRT beamforming weights for two vertically adjacent antennas would be nearly the same, then it shouldn’t hurt much to force them to be identical. In many deployments, the users’ signals arrive to the base station from roughly the same elevation angle, which leads to almost the same MRT weights for vertically adjacent antennas. This explained in the following white paper from Ericsson (see Figure 4):

https://www.ericsson.com/en/white-papers/advanced-antenna-systems-for-5g-networks

]]>Thanks Prof. Emil Björnson for your kind reply. I was trying to understand the reason for doing 64RF chains with 128 antennas by connecting 2 vertical antennas with the same RF. This no doubt will reduce the cost of the hardware, however comes with a cost of performance. Assuming TDD, we will not have full 128 antenna channel information due to similar antenna configuration on UL, and this limits the precoder design. Assuming MRT in the DL, where we will be matching to the DL channel, we will only have 64 antenna channel estimates and apply the same to the 128 antennas (the vertical antennas connected to same RF gets the same coefficient). Don’t this mismatch affect the performance of the DL?

]]>This is explained in Section 7.4 of the book “Massive MIMO Networks” that you can download from https://massivemimobook.com

]]>Sprint is using a 64-antenna base station for LTE. It can be used to serve any LTE device/phone. One of the beauties of Massive MIMO technology is that you only need advanced hardware at the base station, while the user devices can have a single antenna and very simple. (That said, every LTE device has at least two receive antennas.)

]]>I suppose the telecom operators will use the maximum output power that they are allowed to use. In this blog post you can find some numbers on the maximum power of a recent 64-antenna product: http://ma-mimo.ellintech.se/2018/08/27/a-look-at-an-lte-tdd-massive-mimo-product/

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